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[[Bestand:Er25-set.jpeg|miniatuur|ER25 metric collet set]]
 
[[Bestand:Er25-set.jpeg|miniatuur|ER25 metric collet set]]
  
Set of METRIC collets -- for the ER25, ER32 and ER40 holder of the[[Abene VHF3 Metaalfrees machine]], [[Metaaldraaibank|Metal lathe]], [[Houtdraaibank|Wood Lathe]] and various other MT2 taper tools.
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Set of METRIC collets -- for the ER25, ER32 and ER40 holder of the[[Abene Metal Mill / Freesbank|Abene Metal Mill]], [[Metal Lathe / Metaal draaibank|Metal lathe]], [[Houtdraaibank|Wood Lathe]] and various other [[MT2]] taper tools.
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When in doubt which is which (e.g. when ordering) - just measure the widest diameter of the collet; or the inner diameter of the hole in the holder at its widest point. It will be 25, 32 or 40mm.
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If you unfamiliar with these - try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKikm6cQKh0
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== Use ==
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Make sure you `angle-click' the collet into the nut (do not force it straight). Have someone show you if you've not done it before -- as it is easy to get them out of shape this way -- causing vibration. (from https://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Collets/ER-Collets/ER40-Collets) or this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKikm6cQKh0 (13:16).
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[[Bestand:Er25-inset.jpg]]
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Inspecting the inside of our ER collet nuts reveals an internal flange that has been machined eccentric to the main axis of the nut. This is not a machining error but is designed that way to lock onto the groove of the collet and aid its release from the chuck body.
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For this feature to work properly, the collet must be mounted in the nut first before fitting the assembly into the chuck body. To mount the collet in the nut, insert it on an angle, turn slightly and push it into the nut until it clicks into place on the eccentric flange. The cutter may now be fitted and the assembly tightened hard into the chuck body.
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To remove the cutter, slacken and undo the nut until resistance is felt. Then, using a collet wrench, further undo the nut until the collet is released from the chuck body. Removal of the collet from the nut is the reverse of the mounting procedure.
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See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKikm6cQKh0 for how to do this. Or ask someone! '''DO NOT USE FORCE'''. It is very easy, very light and absolutely no force required.
  
 
=== ER 25 ===
 
=== ER 25 ===
METRIC Sizes 1mm - 15mm -- and each will take 0.5mm for the small collets and from 6mm - 1mm smaller. So actual range is 0.5-1, 1.5-2, ... until 6 to 15mm. Do not use them outside this range. They will break (check the box with the boring bar for examples).
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METRIC Sizes 1mm to 15mm; and 18mm -- and each will take 0.5mm for the small collets and from 6mm - 1mm smaller. So actual range is 0.5-1, 1.5-2, ... until 6 to 15mm.  
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'''Do not use them outside this range. They ''will'' break (check the box with the boring bar for examples).
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So ''nope'' in below table means that for those sizes you cannot use the collets - so perhaps use the [[MT2 Hand chuck]](in the red box); or use one of the small holders to enlarge it to 12mm. Or consider donating what you need to the space - they are just a few euro's a piece on AliExpress.
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| 1 || 0.5 - 1 mm
 
| 1 || 0.5 - 1 mm
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| nope || 1 - 1.5 mm
 
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| 2 || 1.5 - 2 mm
 
| 2 || 1.5 - 2 mm
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| nope || 2 - 2.5 mm
 
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| 3 || 2.5 - 3 mm
 
| 3 || 2.5 - 3 mm
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| nope || 3 - 3.5 mm
 
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| 4 || 3.5 - 4 mm
 
| 4 || 3.5 - 4 mm
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| nope || 4 - 4.5 mm
 
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| 5 || 4.5 - 5 mm
 
| 5 || 4.5 - 5 mm
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| nope || 5 - 5.5 mm
 
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| 6 || 5- 6 mm
 
| 6 || 5- 6 mm
Regel 56: Regel 94:
 
METRIC Sizes 23 and 26. Will fit 22-23 mm and 25-26mm. '''Do not exceed''' this range. They will '''break'''.
 
METRIC Sizes 23 and 26. Will fit 22-23 mm and 25-26mm. '''Do not exceed''' this range. They will '''break'''.
  
== Use ==
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== Holders - machines ==
Make sure you `angle-click' the collet into the nut (do not force it straight). Have someone show you if you've not done it before -- as it is easy to get them out of shape this way -- causing vibration.
 
  
(from https://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Collets/ER-Collets/ER40-Collets):
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There are [[MT2]] and ISO40 tapers for the [[Abene Metal Mill / Freesbank|Abene Metal Mill]], [[Metal Lathe / Metaal draaibank|Metaaldraaibank]], [[Houtdraaibank]] and so on.
  
[[Bestand:Er25-inset.jpg]]
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== Holders - vice ==
  
Inspecting the inside of our ER collet nuts reveals an internal flange that has been machined eccentric to the main axis of the nut. This is not a machining error but is designed that way to lock onto the groove of the collet and aid its release from the chuck body.
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[[Bestand:Er25-holder.jpg|600px]]
  
For this feature to work properly, the collet must be mounted in the nut first before fitting the assembly into the chuck body. To mount the collet in the nut, insert it on an angle, turn slightly and push it into the nut until it clicks into place on the eccentric flange. The cutter may now be fitted and the assembly tightened hard into the chuck body.
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We also have two ER25 collet holders; one square, one hex.  
  
To remove the cutter, slacken and undo the nut until resistance is felt. Then, using a collet wrench, further undo the nut until the collet is released from the chuck body. Removal of the collet from the nut is the reverse of the mounting procedure.
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To hold something round in a vice; and be able to rotate it at tight/accurate angles.  
  
== Holders - machines ==
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For example to turn the end of something round into a hex or square that you can rotate with a spanner. Or get a flat side on something round.
  
There are MT2 and ISO40 tapers for the [[Abene VHF3 Metaalfrees machine]], [[Metaaldraaibank]], [[Houtdraaibank]] and so on.
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See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzWolYW_MKc (halfway in) for examples.
  
== Holders - vice ==
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It is also useful to hold them in the 4 (square) or 3 (hex) jaw chuck (klauwplaat) of the [[Metal Lathe / Metaal draaibank|Metal Lathe]]:
  
[[Bestand:Er25-holder.jpg|600px]]
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[[Bestand:Er25-squre-in-huvema.jpg|500px|ER24 in chuck of lathe]].
  
We also have two ER25 collet holders; one square, one hex.  
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Alternatively there is now an ER32 [[Collet_Chuck|Collet Chuck]] for the lathe that makes it easier to use ER32 collets.
  
To hold something round in a vice; and be able to rotate it at tight/accurate angles.
 
  
For example to turn the end of something round into a hex or square that you can rotate with a spanner. Or get a flat side on something round.
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[[Bestand:MT4ColletChuck.jpg|500px|ER32 collet chuck in the lathe]].
  
 
== Holders - flange ==
 
== Holders - flange ==
Regel 90: Regel 126:
  
 
Make sure that the bolt (bout) you use is _shorter_ than the hight; because you do not want to break out the T-Slot by having it hit the bottom of the T groove and then `pushing' up the metal (check the square plate to see the tear-out damage when that happens).
 
Make sure that the bolt (bout) you use is _shorter_ than the hight; because you do not want to break out the T-Slot by having it hit the bottom of the T groove and then `pushing' up the metal (check the square plate to see the tear-out damage when that happens).
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== Holders - MT2 ==
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We have a few MT2 / ER collet holders. Usually in the blue cabinet.
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[[Bestand:collet-mt2-holder.jpg|400px|ER/MT2 collet holders]]
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Zie [[MT2 Collet houder]].
  
 
== Todo ==
 
== Todo ==
Regel 104: Regel 148:
 
One spare nut bought July 2019 to replace borked one. Mail the mailing list if you '''use up the last spare one'''.
 
One spare nut bought July 2019 to replace borked one. Mail the mailing list if you '''use up the last spare one'''.
  
== Rules ==
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The 18mm ER25 was donated by Maarten Early 2022.
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== Box ==
 
== Box ==

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This equipment is safety category 5: Equipment that is relatively fragile or expensive

  • In person instructions is not mandatory.
  • Reading the wiki, and following the instructions, is mandatory.

This equipment is Noise Category 3: Can be used at all hours. No limits.

ER25 metric collet set

Set of METRIC collets -- for the ER25, ER32 and ER40 holder of theAbene Metal Mill, Metal lathe, Wood Lathe and various other MT2 taper tools.

When in doubt which is which (e.g. when ordering) - just measure the widest diameter of the collet; or the inner diameter of the hole in the holder at its widest point. It will be 25, 32 or 40mm.

If you unfamiliar with these - try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKikm6cQKh0


Use

Make sure you `angle-click' the collet into the nut (do not force it straight). Have someone show you if you've not done it before -- as it is easy to get them out of shape this way -- causing vibration. (from https://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Collets/ER-Collets/ER40-Collets) or this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKikm6cQKh0 (13:16).

Er25-inset.jpg

Inspecting the inside of our ER collet nuts reveals an internal flange that has been machined eccentric to the main axis of the nut. This is not a machining error but is designed that way to lock onto the groove of the collet and aid its release from the chuck body.

For this feature to work properly, the collet must be mounted in the nut first before fitting the assembly into the chuck body. To mount the collet in the nut, insert it on an angle, turn slightly and push it into the nut until it clicks into place on the eccentric flange. The cutter may now be fitted and the assembly tightened hard into the chuck body.

To remove the cutter, slacken and undo the nut until resistance is felt. Then, using a collet wrench, further undo the nut until the collet is released from the chuck body. Removal of the collet from the nut is the reverse of the mounting procedure.

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKikm6cQKh0 for how to do this. Or ask someone! DO NOT USE FORCE. It is very easy, very light and absolutely no force required.

ER 25

METRIC Sizes 1mm to 15mm; and 18mm -- and each will take 0.5mm for the small collets and from 6mm - 1mm smaller. So actual range is 0.5-1, 1.5-2, ... until 6 to 15mm.

Do not use them outside this range. They will break (check the box with the boring bar for examples).

So nope in below table means that for those sizes you cannot use the collets - so perhaps use the MT2 Hand chuck(in the red box); or use one of the small holders to enlarge it to 12mm. Or consider donating what you need to the space - they are just a few euro's a piece on AliExpress.


Label Range that fits
1 0.5 - 1 mm
nope 1 - 1.5 mm
2 1.5 - 2 mm
nope 2 - 2.5 mm
3 2.5 - 3 mm
nope 3 - 3.5 mm
4 3.5 - 4 mm
nope 4 - 4.5 mm
5 4.5 - 5 mm
nope 5 - 5.5 mm
6 5- 6 mm
7 6- 7 mm
8 7- 8 mm
9 8- 9 mm
10 9- 10 mm
11 10- 11 mm
12 11- 12 mm
13 12- 13 mm
14 13- 14 mm
15 14- 15 mm
16 15- 16 mm

ER 32

METRIC Sizes 10, 12, 13, 16, 18 and 20 mm. Each will take up to 1 mm smaller. So the Size 10 will accept 9-10.

The range accepted is inscribed on the top of the collet. Do not use them outside this range. They will break (check the box with the boring bar for examples).

ER 40

METRIC Sizes 23 and 26. Will fit 22-23 mm and 25-26mm. Do not exceed this range. They will break.

Holders - machines

There are MT2 and ISO40 tapers for the Abene Metal Mill, Metaaldraaibank, Houtdraaibank and so on.

Holders - vice

Er25-holder.jpg

We also have two ER25 collet holders; one square, one hex.

To hold something round in a vice; and be able to rotate it at tight/accurate angles.

For example to turn the end of something round into a hex or square that you can rotate with a spanner. Or get a flat side on something round.

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzWolYW_MKc (halfway in) for examples.

It is also useful to hold them in the 4 (square) or 3 (hex) jaw chuck (klauwplaat) of the Metal Lathe:

ER24 in chuck of lathe.

Alternatively there is now an ER32 Collet Chuck for the lathe that makes it easier to use ER32 collets.


ER32 collet chuck in the lathe.

Holders - flange

To mount on various machines - to hold round things.

Collet-holder.jpg

Make sure that the bolt (bout) you use is _shorter_ than the hight; because you do not want to break out the T-Slot by having it hit the bottom of the T groove and then `pushing' up the metal (check the square plate to see the tear-out damage when that happens).

Holders - MT2

We have a few MT2 / ER collet holders. Usually in the blue cabinet.

ER/MT2 collet holders

Zie MT2 Collet houder.

Todo

Would be nice to make / find a box for them.

History & Ownership

Bought June 2019 (ER25) and September 2019 (ER32, ER40). Owned by the Stichting Makerspace Leiden.

ER25 spare nut ER25 spare nut

One spare nut bought July 2019 to replace borked one. Mail the mailing list if you use up the last spare one.

The 18mm ER25 was donated by Maarten Early 2022.

Box

Template for a box.

Er25-box.svg